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  1. I don’t really have anything to say that I haven’t already in your previous blog posting or yesterday. But, I did want to comment on one sentence in this.

    “And even if I wanted to be smoking pot 100% of my off work time, if I’m doing you good work – why should it matter what I do?”

    From the company’s standpoint: if you are breaking one law then how can we be sure you won’t break more and thus be a liability for us?

    Not saying it’s right or valid but that’s where they are coming from. Same reason they do background checks and FBI fingerprinting and more interrogations/interviews than I’d ever care to do and everything else (yes, I had to do all of this for my bank jobs, but that’s a special circumstance I’m sure). They want to make sure I’m honest all around before they invest money in me by hiring and training me. So, they test for illegal drugs as part of that process. Again, not saying I agree with the process or their justifications. Just explaining it.

    • Ah, but I refute by pointing at this past century’s increasing criminalization of the average man, because it is profitable to the United States government. Read up on the prison industrial complex sometime if you want your mind to melt in terror… but it basically boils down to the fact that incredibly ridiculous sentences are handed down for things like drugs (exploiting the ‘Christian’ mentality of many Americans), even in cases where it’s obviously NOT dealing, because slave labour is a great way to keep a great nation running. *shakes head*

      So yes, while I get the so-called reasons, I still call bollocks. 🙂

      • I will have lifelong mental issues because of the mistreatment and abuse I’ve experienced at the hand of people abusing drugs. My parents didn’t give a crap about me growing up and because of it, I go to the other extreme with my child which isn’t any good for him either. I’ve had guns pointed at me numerous times during bank robberies, including the time I was held hostage for half a day, because of a group of guys that were strung out on something. I hate drugs, I think there’s a reason why they are illegal. I wish they could somehow be wiped from existence but that’s just me living in a dream world. But, I think the punishments for drug abuse are oftentimes not strict enough. The guys that locked us in the bank vault for half a day and kept waiving loaded guns at us? (oh and shot and killed a coworker in the head 3 ft away from me) They got 6 months in jail. So, I don’t agree with you that drug cases are often given ridiculous sentences. But, either way, that’s getting into our incredibly fucked up judicial system and that’s not the topic of conversation here at all. 🙂

        • I have lesser issues with drugs, and don’t generally equate marijuana to the rest. I definitely emphatically despise cocaine and it users. But I also believe that the criminalization of things tends to make situations worse, and that the War on Drugs as such doesn’t work.

          I’ll also say that you’ve accidentally hit upon the crux of the issue in your first line – mental problems. Health care is terrible in the USA, and mental healthcare even worse. I know that, personally, most of my drink and drug problems through the years were because of depression and other such issues, and I suspect that’s a common theme. Don’t think I’m justifying them as coping mechanisms, though – I think my lack of use of all substances in this day and age stands testament to my disapproval of such. 🙂

          And geez… I’ll tell you some stories someday, ’cause I do empathise even if I won’t talk about it here.

  2. I’m currently working at a really big construction site and there is drug testing here, but it would seem to make sense to me – if you’re operating huge plant (or have access to the site), then you may be a health and safety hazard (alcohol testing is included in drugs, so it’s about fitness to function, not legal/illegal usage). But testing as a blanket requirement for work or welfare does seem entirely repugnant. Even if you’ve never suffered mental illness before, being made jobless can severely impact your self-worth and make escape from reality look attractive, the time when you need as much support as possible – welfare is really not the life choice that complacent middle-class aspirants and narrow minded bigots (not to mention the carrion media) would have everyone believe.

    • Indeed! One thing that keeps coming up on Facebook to validate peoples’ opinions is that they see Welfare recipients with fancy things. Erm… hrm… anyone notice what sort of things were looted in the riots here? Oh hrm… the things that people are pummelled with, told they have to have to be happy, to belong… *sighs* It takes a lot of strength to stand outside of that stream of messages and whisperings of happiness being a purchase away; I know this, and definitely have compassion towards the difficulty of ignoring what looks like the way to belong…

      But yes – drug/booze use + heavy machinery = not a lark!

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